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Lords of the Sith Podcast
Добавлен 20 июн 2018
Welcome to our channel! Lords of the Sith is an international Star Wars-centric podcast offering in-depth film analysis, as well as discussion of literature, psychology, and pop culture. We focus mainly on the Sequel Trilogy, Kylo Ren and Reylo, but will be branching out into other favorites as well. Beware spoilers!
Lords of the Sith is a daughter project of Star Wars Connection, representing diverse Reylo viewpoints spread across the galaxy.
May the Force serve you well. ;)
-Lee, Denise, Mary
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Lords of the Sith is a daughter project of Star Wars Connection, representing diverse Reylo viewpoints spread across the galaxy.
May the Force serve you well. ;)
-Lee, Denise, Mary
Reylo Sith Lords
-
Contact:
lordsofthesith.podcast@gmail.com
Twitter (Denise): LordSithPodcast
Tumblr (Lee): lordsofthesithpodcast.tumblr.com/
Facebook (Mary): LordSithPodcast/
Instagram (Mary): lordsofthesith.podcast
You can listen to our episodes on itunes and Soundcloud:
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Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel's influence on Rey and Episode IX
We discuss how Star Wars Episode IX, The Rise of Skywalker, has similarities with superhero movies and how the fairly recent successes of female-lead Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel might have caused some influences in its production and planning.
We also comment on other superhero movies and Marvel movies, such as Endgame. We note the different tropes in Marvel and DC and Star Wars, and how some plot points were poorly copied from movies like Wonder Woman.
We also discuss Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Black Widow and Harley Quinn.
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Mary and Denise
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We also comment on other superhero movies and Marvel movies, such as Endgame. We note the different tropes in Marvel and DC and Star Wars, and how some plot points were poorly copied from movies like Wonder Woman.
We also discuss Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Black Widow and Harley Quinn.
SPEAKERS:
Mary and Denise
AUDIO EDITING: Denise
VIDEO EDITING: Mary and Denise
MUSIC:
Intro:
Loyalty Freak music - Extra Metal
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Mothers in Star Wars - tragedy and symbolism
Просмотров 1,9 тыс.4 года назад
In this video, we discuss how motherhood is portrayed in Star Wars. As a movie series focused on father and sons in its first trilogy, Star Wars doesn't leave a lot of room for mothers, but they play important roles, especially in the Prequel Trilogy. In the Old Trilogy, we discuss Aunt Beru's role and Leia's sometimes motherly behaviour. We then look at Shmi Skywalker and Padme in the Prequel ...
Some book recommendations for Reylo Fans
Просмотров 3,6 тыс.4 года назад
In this video, Mary and Denise recommend some recent books they enjoyed as a way to get our heads out of Star Wars and support female creators. Women are writing tons of great books, and that’s where we can find stories with strong heroines, happy endings, and interesting romantic plots. Lots of fantasy, enemies-to-lovers romance, some weird plots, beauty and the beast and Eros and Psyche retel...
How Female Sexuality is portrayed in the Sequel Trilogy
Просмотров 4,8 тыс.4 года назад
From exchanging the force in TFA, to wet gloves and a wet cave in TLJ, to Klaud, snake in a cave, and phallic symbols everywhere in TROS, Mary and Denise look at sexual undertones, symbolism, and how female sexuality is portrayed in the Sequel Trilogy. We discuss the sexual undertones and symbolism from The Force Awakens, how The Last Jedi had a different approach, and how The Rise of Skywalker...
How the marketing doomed the Sequel Trilogy
Просмотров 3,6 тыс.4 года назад
Mary and Denise look back and discuss the marketing for the Sequel Trilogy, and how some of its deceiving tactics and mystery boxes created false expectations, confused fans, and even exacerbated divisions in the fandom. #sequeltrilogy #theriseofskywalker #thelastjedi #reylo Speakers: Mary and Denise Audio editing: Denise Video Editing: Mary MUSIC: Intro: Loyalty Freak music - Extra Metal freem...
The Folk of the Air Review and Discussion The Cruel Prince, The Wicked King, The Queen of Nothing
Просмотров 4,6 тыс.4 года назад
The Folk of the Air is a very popular YA book series. In this episode, Mary and Denise explain what the books are about, give a nonspoilery review, then dive in a deep discussion with spoilers for those of us who have read The Wicked King and The Queen of Nothing. We talk about Jude Duarte and her relationship with her sisters, Madoc, Jude and Cardan, sometimes referred to as Jurdan, and their ...
Ben Solo: Why fans love him
Просмотров 10 тыс.4 года назад
Ben Solo is the most popular character in the Sequel Trilogy. Mary, Lee, and Denise discuss the reasons for that, and analyze Ben Solo's journey, from his introduction as masked Kylo Ren, to his redemption, or bendemption, in Episode IX, including his background in comics such as The Rise of Kylo Ren. Of course a character with elements from Star Wars' two most popular male characters, Darth Va...
What happened to Episode IX? Ben Solo's death, re-edits, ending.
Просмотров 7 тыс.4 года назад
In this video, Mary and Denise try to understand a little more what happened in the production of the Rise of Skywalker and how they came to the fim presented on screen. We discuss Ben Solo's death (or disappearance), the lack of theme for that moment or mourning, and whether it had been planned ahead or if there had been some changes. We go over the evidence for re-edits from interviews with t...
What happened to Episode IX? Trevorrow's script and the Artbook shed some answers.
Просмотров 6 тыс.4 года назад
In this episode, Mary and Denise discuss the production of Star Wars Episode IX, The Rise of Skywalker and why there are signs that many changes happened in it, especially in Colin Trevorrow's version, the leaked Artbook, and interviews with Chris Terrio and more cast and crew. We start by discussing Colin Trevorrow's treatment for Episode IX, what we can learn from it, what was carried to JJ a...
The Rise of Skywalker Review
Просмотров 12 тыс.4 года назад
Lee, Mary, and Denise talk about their first reactions about The Rise of Skywalker and what they liked and didn't like in what was the last chapter in the Sequel Trilogy. #reylo #wheresrose #bensolo Donation for Arts in the Armed forces: ca.gofundme.com/f/bensoloslegacy Speakers: Lee, Mary, and Denise Audio editing: Lee Video editing: Denise MUSIC: Intro: Loyalty Freak music - Extra Metal freem...
The Rise of Skywalker Spoilers, Predictions, and New Leaks
Просмотров 4,8 тыс.4 года назад
Denise and Mary make predictions for The Rise of Skywalker, comment on the recently released soundtrack for consideration and also comment on the leaks: We discuss: - Will Kylo live in The Rise of Skywalker? - Will there be romantic Reylo? - Is Rey a Palpatine? - What's going to happen to Finn? - What about Rose? - Is Jannah Finn's sister? Lando's daughter? - What's going to happen to Poe? - Wh...
Reylo Rising as TROS nears
Просмотров 8 тыс.4 года назад
Denise and Mary comment on more news and updates now that we're heading to The Rise of Skywalker. This episode is all about how Reylo-Friendly the marketing has been! From special hashtags #ReyandKylo #KyloandRey in several languages, to the word Reylo being mentioned in interviews and articles (without mocking!!!), the idea of a possible romantic connection between Kylo and Rey has been fully ...
Reylo on the way to Episode IX
Просмотров 12 тыс.4 года назад
In this episode, we comment on some recent interviews and other Reylo related news that hint strongly that The Rise of Skywalker will have a satisfying conclusion for Rey and Kylo's arc. We start by commenting on Empire Mag's exclusive, beautiful cover and its symbolism. We comment on a German poster for Episode IX, where Kylo is strategically placed near Rey's... Anyway. We analyze recent TV s...
Why The Rise of Skywalker leaked ending doesn't add up - SPOILERS
Просмотров 9 тыс.4 года назад
In this video, Denise comments about the leaked plot of Episode IX and why some details in it don't make sense. If you haven't read the Episode IX leaks, don't listen to this episode, as it contains possible spoilers. We comment on Ben Solo/ Kylo Ren's fate, and how falling down "never to be seen again" does not make sense in terms of the character's arc or according to common scriptwriting str...
The Rise of Skywalker Trailer and Poster Analysis
Просмотров 6 тыс.4 года назад
In this video, Lee, Mary, and Denise analyze and discuss more of the TROS final trailer and the Episode IX theatrical poster. We comment on how Luke's presence is felt in the trailer, say more about the space horses, Jannah, Finn, and Poe. We comment on Rey and Kylo destroying the statue and the significance of it and what the trailer is telling us thematically. We notice Palpatine and his mayb...
The Rise of Skywalker trailer discussion and analysis
Просмотров 8 тыс.4 года назад
The Rise of Skywalker trailer discussion and analysis
TROS: Empire Magazine's Reylo Feature
Просмотров 7 тыс.4 года назад
TROS: Empire Magazine's Reylo Feature
The Rise of Skywalker at D-23 - Discussion, theories, and spoilers!
Просмотров 7 тыс.4 года назад
The Rise of Skywalker at D-23 - Discussion, theories, and spoilers!
The Rise of Kylo Ren Thoughts and Theories
Просмотров 3,8 тыс.5 лет назад
The Rise of Kylo Ren Thoughts and Theories
Game of Thrones Writing: What went wrong
Просмотров 2,7 тыс.5 лет назад
Game of Thrones Writing: What went wrong
Star-Crossed Lovers: Vanity Fair Photos and Article for Ep IX
Просмотров 11 тыс.5 лет назад
Star-Crossed Lovers: Vanity Fair Photos and Article for Ep IX
The Rise of Skywalker: Title and Teaser Discussion
Просмотров 7 тыс.5 лет назад
The Rise of Skywalker: Title and Teaser Discussion
TROS teaser: reactions from the podcast stage
Просмотров 6 тыс.5 лет назад
TROS teaser: reactions from the podcast stage
Shipping and Romance Panel at Star Wars Celebration
Просмотров 9 тыс.5 лет назад
Shipping and Romance Panel at Star Wars Celebration
Rey and Reylo: why romance is not just for male heroes
Просмотров 15 тыс.5 лет назад
Rey and Reylo: why romance is not just for male heroes
Episode IX: Leaked Poster and Character sheet (Spoilers)
Просмотров 5 тыс.5 лет назад
Episode IX: Leaked Poster and Character sheet (Spoilers)
Star Wars Celebration Chicago: Let's get ready!
Просмотров 3 тыс.5 лет назад
Star Wars Celebration Chicago: Let's get ready!
Kylo Ren and Luke: Masculinity Portrayals in TLJ.
Просмотров 7 тыс.5 лет назад
Kylo Ren and Luke: Masculinity Portrayals in TLJ.
Rey and Reylo: Psychology of the Characterization
Просмотров 16 тыс.5 лет назад
Rey and Reylo: Psychology of the Characterization
Too many people ignore that ben isn't really EVER trying to hurt rey when they fight. He's defending himself, he's wearing her down, but he's not really attacking. She's all in usually. He's defending.
I really want Ben to have a chat with Anakin in the world beyond worlds to really solidify the connection between their stories
Hey there, really enjoyed the video! I would love to get these as audio only, are you on audea?
I always thought it would have been cool if when Ben turns back after he'd thrown his lightsaber into the ocean, in the eyeline of where Han had been standing was the millenium falcon with Finn and Poe arguing about Rey leaving them and what to do next (I actually thought that that was what was going to happen and was jumping in my seat in the cinema before...disappointment); and [SPOILERS for ATLA season 3] like Zuko approaching the gAang in Atla, Ben had approached Finn, Poe, Chewie, Jannah and BB8 and because (in this version he had released Chewie), and because of Rey saving him - Ben explains the force bond and they have an uneasy alliance to try and find Rey. There's also a storm trooper uprising in this one because come on guys Finn could have had such an amazing arc that was set up across the movies alongside Ben becoming a "traitor" and "rebel scum." I also would of had DJ come back and be the spy instead of Hux as a first order coder, as sort of a mini redemption for his character; and then you could of had that spicy rivalry with Hux come to ahead - him taking over the First Order after Kylo Ren "betrays" them. This movie could have been so good and it keeps me up at night hoping that they continue their stories in some way where these interactions can happen because they're such GOOD characters, but anyway... Ben Solo Lives 🦋💙, and if there's hope, then there's possibility. (I know this video was posted 2 years ago, but with the new Kenobi series coming out soon my love for Star Wars has been blossoming again, and that love always comes back round to the sequel trilogy characters, reylo and the podcasts that made me love them and their mythic symbolism even more <3).
The Legacy family was destroyed, and it left a bad taste in fans mouth.
2 years later and it's still a conundrum, what they did / meant to do with TROS
To me this a problem that goes beyond movies. Sometimes people can't really make up their minds on what they want from female characters or women in general. Other than "STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS"! Then never explaining on what they mean on STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN! For me, I just want good characters. Regardless of whatever gender they're in between their legs.
they had a big opportunity to do something great with her and Ren and even Finn (not so much Poe, he's just another Han really..) and they screwed it up. I hope they build out the sequel stuff more
Maybe I am just different but if you meant the sequel trilogy not making anyone love star wars, then I am the exception. I had never watched more than 5 mintues in passing of star wars before TFA and that was a month before TROS. In 3-4 months after that, I watched every single star wars thing besides lego series and haven't gotten around to Solo. I need to get past the no harrison as Han
I think they wanted to turn Rey into a copy of Luke. The female sexuality in the sequel is something to be rejected, but the most beloved hero of this saga is practically a celibate priest - Luke who conquered his sexual urges by defeating the "shit monster with a toothed vagina" Jabba The Hut. Canonically Luke is a saint so rey should also be for the public to like her. Star Wars was sexist in the sequel but throughout the saga we see that sex is treated as something punishable by death even for non-jedi- Anakin falls on the dark side and loses padmé, han and Leia die and the son falls to the dark side, Rey loses Ben. Luke didn't have sex, but was punished by his nephew's fall into the shadowy area (breaking a pattern). But he returned to being "hero" in the nine. Star Wars in general is not just a sexist franchise with women, but it praises chastity on a sick level.
So much complexity, for ep IX to simply completely regress Rey an angry child, who praises the "sir" who blocks his sexual awakening and still turns his power into something bad inherited from a psychopath. Murdered an incredible character... Revolting...
Great video. I liked the mentions of Sansa Stark/Petyr Baelish and Carol Danvers / Jon-Rogg too.
I'm watching this almost 2 years after TROS came out and I realize how much I miss your vidoes guys.
He's an Onion. Onions have layers; which makes him a great and appealing character. This character relates to so many people in reality.
Kylo has borderline personality disorder just like Anakin
Personally I wouldn't want Timothee Chalamet to play Cardan because I don't think popular young actors should be cast. I think it would be great to let new talent be given a chance to shine. Especially those beginning their career. It should be a role that they become known for as their career progresses.
The TROS novelization states that when Ben Solo came to Exegol for the final battle, Rey saw him as more confident and relaxed. She even saw the resemblance between him and his parents; Han’s long face and posture and Leia’s warm brown eyes.
He'd have to have an arch like Zuko's from Avatar.
One thing that I found interesting is that Ben/Kylo is mentioned to be a focal point in The Force between light and dark, which is why he's so torn and conflicted. The Force is literally playing tug of war with him. The Rise Of Kylo Ren comics even make a brief reference to this.
True. That's quite interesting and something with so many amazing possibilities.
11:54 i can understand why that's uncomfortable, but let's be real. Cliegg Lars wasn't abusing her, he more or less needed someone to care for him and his disability. its fucked up but historically this is what humans have done to each other and still do. sex trafficking, forced marriage, a lot of this still happens. would Shmi have gone with Cliegg willingly if it meant freedom from slavery? who knows. but i don't think Cliegg is bad, the system is bad
i disagree, i don't think Ben deserves that fairytale ending after killing and committing genocide against so many
Never noticed the hand symbolism, brilliant.
Came into this video blind and I loved it! Was subconsciously yearning for this sort of character analysis my whole life. Will definitely be watching more On another note, let's appreciate how Star Wars has given us so much great characters and ideas to work with and think about
I'm so sad that you girls will no longer be making any content for this channel, but I do understand why you decided to stop. I just wanted to thank all of you for everything you have created these past few years. Your videos on reylo, literature and mythology were eye-opening and interesting. I've learned so much from you and always felt like this was a safe space to enjoy this part of the star wars fandom. Your videos have meant more to me than you will ever know. I want to thank you for everything and wish you all a healthy and happy 2021. May the force be with you, always! 💜🌌
Thanks for the good work, it makes writing these characters more thought out, less instinctive. I always have trouble with writing Rey, but you make me realize how too close to home she is for me.
This entire think about female protagonists not been able to have love interests because it makes them weak, reminds me the situation of Tauriel in The Hobbit trilogy. I heard so many people saying than she is weaker because she fell in love and that she couldn't be Captain Of The Guard AnD love at the same time. Just unfair...
So you’re saying that women can only be happy if they have a boyfriend? 😂😂😂 Also ask Star Lord about how the male superheroes always get their love interests. 😂 But that doesn’t mean superheroes are lonely! 😂 You really don’t understand the genre! You know Batman has a whole family and there’s teams like the justice league and the avengers. You really think superheroes are always alone? Lmfao OMG you think heaviness during action was invented in superhero films I just can’t every second there’s another stupid point being made! Just admit it you’re pissed off because your self insert character didn’t get to fuck the hot bad boy! 😂 I’ll leave this here: Finn and Rey is a better couple than Rey and Ben even if Ben wasn’t a completely fascist! Also “Dr. poison’s much worse than Ben Solo.” That’s because she’s less attractive, right?
Very good analysis, although I've seen it argued that Kylo Ren demonstrates more of a borderline personality disorder, as did his grandfather Anakin, than narcissistic traits, although he does show signs of both at different times.
I didn’t get the Wonder Woman/Captain Marvel references but I definitely got a Marvel vibe. Rey’s “I am all the Jedi” made me laugh out loud and found myself thinking about RDJs “I am Iron Man” moment. I also found myself wondering if Disney was going for a “heroic sacrifice” a la Iron Man but they didn’t spend enough time building up the tragedy of Ben Solo to have much of an impact. Don’t even get me started on the “Rey Skywalker” nonsense. I hated this movie so much. What a horrible end to a much loved franchise. It’s a pity too, because Rey, Finn and Kylo/Ben had such strong introductions. Kylo fared the best but Rey and Finn were ultimately useless characters. Poe was an afterthought despite how great Oscar Issac is. This movie really soured me on the whole of Star Wars.
Delicious podcast. I spent the last year deeply in love with Kylo. He's so complex and, for me, the only character well developed. Still in love with his complexity. I want to hug him!!!! <3 #savebensolo
Thanks for the video!
I didn't like Captain Marvel as a movie but I loved the scene towards the end when her mentor was basically trying to get her to prove herself to him by fighting him without her powers. But she doesn't do it and I thought that was perfect. The idea that women have to prove themselves is what I hated most about TRoS. But I agree with everything else you said about the role basically being gender neutral so it doesn't feel like I'm really watching the first female lead marvel movie. Rey didn't choose to be a Skywalker she asked for permission just like she had to earn "Lukes" saber, she had to earn his name as well.
JJ somehow managed to play it so stupidly safe that it actually looped back around to being a risk 😫
OMG, true. We think playing safe is usually good, but you need to tell a story, not try to throw a bone to every sect in the fandom and then pick from successful movies... And now that I look at my shitty photoshop work on blue Luke it's actually better than what we got in TROS.
You know what I'm going to make this simple. If it hadn't been for Rey we wouldn't have Wonder Woman 2017 and Captain Marvel 2019. Thank you Rey thank you Daisy Ridley.
I see your point, but they'd been thinking about a Wonder Woman since 2006. Production for WW started in 2013 and Patty Jenkins was hired in 2015, before TFA came out, and the script was finished already. So I don't think WW was based on Rey and TFA's success.
@@LordsoftheSithPodcast Right. Besides, action movies with female leads were already a trend, when TFA came out. In the same year we had Furiosa and the last appearance of Katniss. And let's not forget about all action ladies that came before them.
I am amazed how you girls find these analogies! Missed you! My favorite podcast 😍
I must say this is the best star wars podcast I've listen to. Keep up with the good work!
My main problem with TROS is that they introduce Rey Palpatine and do nothing with it. They show that she can accidentally use Force Lightning, but not be able to do it intentionally? The final showdown would have been far more interesting if Palpatine fired lightning and Rey was able to counter/block it. Similar to the Aang and Ozai final battle in ATLA, where the villain uses lightning trying to kill the hero and the hero is able to control and redirect it. In my version of the final battle after Palpatine casts Ben Solo into the abyss and Rey stands up, there's a lightning beam struggle between them that ends in a stalemate. Then the resolution arrives when Ben climbs out of the abyss picks up the legacy saber and impales Palpatine while he's distracted. Then he loses control of his lightning and it ends up killing him. At least this way they both contribute to the victory and both survive and Rey's lineage can still be important.
Oh, agreed. It's funny, when we read the leaks and saw Rey Palpatine we thought it made no sense because it had 0 impact on the plot... Love your theory for a force lightning battle. It would show Rey as "empowered" and yet make sense in the context of Star Wars. They could even make her feeling tempted by the dark side, then Kylo saves her. But no. So much potential and they chose something so stupid.
Thank you for discussing this important and nuanced issue that was on the forefront of my mind walking out of TROS, and drove so much of my disappointment. As upset as I was over Ben's death and the destruction of the Skywalker bloodline (and honestly WHERE WAS ANAKIN!?), I was also devastated that they took the relatable and intriguingly rich character of "New Anakin" to Ben's "New Vader" TLJ Rey (so unusual for a female character in film), and flattened and contorted TROS Rey into a subpar and unlikable version of the "women" that in their profoundly narrow view Hollywood continues to shove down our throats. Wish we could be having a different conversation than "what should have been," but as usual appreciate your strong work.
My lovely girls. I love you ❤️
49:35 Black Widow in different comics married or had a love relantioship with basically EVERY male Avenger member (except for a few like Thor and Black Phanter but for obvious reasons), wich of course fans hated this "lack" of romantic pairing in the cinematic version. P.S: if really Lucasfilm wanted Rey to resemble an Marvel heroine, then Wanda is knocking the door since Infinity War (ironically Ben like Vision) and recently with the upcoming "WandaVision" tv series on Disney+.
Disney really hasn't done too well with female characters recently. Just look at all their live action remakes. And while the original animated characters were a little problematic, they still had more character development.
Miss guys
I love ReyLo, loved your SWC channel, and your ongoing commitment and passion for Star Wars. i too have a love of and attachment to SW. it took me some time but I love the ST, including TROS. I hope someone does great work to reveal a child of Rey and Ben down the road but to know that once again love saved the world, and redeemed Kylo, and Ben did what Anakin could not-save the one he loved from dying- ❤️❤️❤️❤️ and that Rey was saved too, having stopped Kylo who did not want to kill her but was still not redeemed and wanted to rule the galaxy without remorse for the massacres or murders he perpetrated- Rey used the force to bring him back- Kylo-not Ben, he was still Kylo then but Rey felt the Force go off balance with Leia’s loving sacrifice. I agree the Force is not a superpower or power one has. you raised interesting parallels but Leia’s love for her son, Han’s love, support and forgiveness (not his blaster or fast talking “super powers”) -to me that is absolutely SW and an awesome way to conclude their arcs and immortalize their legacy . Thank you for all of your thoughtful broadcasts ✌🏼⭐️ May the Force be with you 👏🏽
Rey unfortunately never seems to fully resolve or come to terms with her inner demons. In TROS everything "negative" for her appears to be neatly swept under the rug. All those inner feelings and desires of hers are jammed into a box labeled "DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE." Her character truly becomes the queen of denial.
Your talking about how male directors and writers try to appeal to women and fail so badly reminded me of a certain scene from season 2 of The Boys, which, for those who don't know, takes the idea of superheroes are brings them to a very dark extreme. You know that Hollywood's "dudebro" attitude is getting bad when female "heroine" Stormfront, an honest to God Nazi who wants elevate those with powers to be the new master race, calls out the shows version of J.J. Abrams for making women either the damsel in distress or an utter bitch. And she gets cheered. As for the last bit of TROS, when Rey was walking into the sunset I didn't really get the sense that this was the end of her story. When Luke did that it marked the beginning of his adventures, and word around the campfire is that DLF will eventually continue Rey's story, and by extension they will have to continue Ben's. He's already getting an animated series on Disney+, or it's at least in early development, which shows that Disney is acknowledging how popular Ben is. And sooner or later they will run out of in-universe time to cover everything leading up to TROS. After that it's just beating a dead horse, where as they can bring him back from the dead, and there are several ways for that to happen, and make Ben a Rey a cash cow begging to be milked.
Hello there!
General Kenobi!
Èlite: Lù: I killed Polo by accident. The others: Ok, it was an accident. Baby: Chiara: I became a prostitute, 'cause I was bored. ( For the same reason that Dianna became Wonder Woman) The others: Ok, you need a chance. Star Wars: Rey: I brought peace to the universe. The others: You have to punished very hard for that.
In the end the writers didnt respect rey enough to make her a character they left her as a hollow empowerment doll and threw it at women as if we should be satisfied with that... we need more diverse and developed character traits in powerful women generally
What nonsense. The writers, JJ in particular, literally understood Rey perfectly. JJ literally created Rey and understood her deep and profound psychological flaws and why in Episode 9 Rey’s arc is so incredibly emotional and satisfying. Rey is one of the most complex and psychologically nuanced characters.
@@ReySkywalker2 I suppose that’s your opinion. I agree with the original poster, and I generally liked the sequel trilogy up until episode IX. In episode 7, Rey was an intriguing character. She had vulnerabilities (loneliness, always having to fend for herself) and she was so headstrong by being molded by this harsh Jakku environment her whole life. Somewhere along the way, the writers of this trilogy decided to make her a two-dimensional cardboard character. I found myself not caring about what happened to her by the end of IX. She was just..there, never really given any humanity or inner demons to work though. I just didn’t care anymore.
@@ReySkywalker2 I suppose that’s your opinion. I agree with the original poster, and I generally liked the sequel trilogy up until episode IX. In episode 7, Rey was an intriguing character. She had vulnerabilities (loneliness, always having to fend for herself) and she was so headstrong by being molded by this harsh Jakku environment her whole life. Somewhere along the way, the writers of this trilogy decided to make her a two-dimensional cardboard character. I found myself not caring about what happened to her by the end of IX. She was just..there, never really given any humanity or inner demons to work though. I just didn’t care anymore.
the reality is that many star wars fans see the Jedi as a power fantasy, specifically concerning physical strength, and since the current mainstream definitions of power in films are from marvel superheroes, the directors tried to update the Jedi power fantasy to resemble marvel's. TBH this shows imaginative bankruptcy and a lack of understanding of what makes the jedi special more than anything else. So uncivilized
Very true. It's almost as if they wanted to "update" the meaning of being a Jedi to fit current trends. While at the same time bringing older characters to feed nostalgia. In the end it makes 0 sense and has no thematic cohesion.
What nonsense. The writers, JJ in particular, literally understood Rey perfectly. JJ literally created Rey and understood her deep and profound psychological flaws and why in Episode 9 Rey’s arc is so incredibly emotional and satisfying. Rey is one of the most complex and psychologically nuanced characters.